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		<title>By: bethrushka</title>
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		<description>Ok.   So I&#039;ve been given Victoza to take for similar reasons as you. I haven&#039;t started it yet. My doctor seems to have vanished after telling me to talk to him once I had the prescription in hand before taking it. Before this, he had me on the Duke diet and I&#039;ve been steadily losing weight. More than just losing weight, it&#039;s taught me HOW to eat with the same insulin resistance condition you state. What&#039;s weird to me is how much sugar you&#039;re putting in your body while  taking this. My diet is extremely low carb for 2 weeks, then off of the low/no carb for 3 weeks. But the off has its limits. It practices portion control with limited carbs. I won&#039;t say anything is really denied, but the sweets I got on this cycle were very rarely eaten. And they were selected with great care to have no more than 11 grams of sugar. So I found  Juliette&#039;s ice cream sandwiches, (1/2 of the normal Julie&#039;s ice cream sandwich) and the lowest sugar dark chocolate bars I could find (all this from Whole Foods).  Some of these items were things I&#039;d happily eaten in the past. But I didn&#039;t find I wanted much of them. 2 chocolate bars lasted 5 weeks. I&#039;d take a small chunk when I was in the mood and that was sufficient. The rest of my diet was to take a sectioned plate and on the big section put vegie, on each of the little sections I could fill with carbs in one such as rice, or pasta and protein such as meat.  I don&#039;t drink soda. So what&#039;s bizarre to me is how much pure sugar you seemed to be shovelling in your mouth, because of course that goes fast. While not eating any proteins that last quite awhile. And why you would eat that way with high insulin levels? I am so thrilled with my doctor, not because of the weight loss, though that&#039;s a side benefit, but because he&#039;s restored my energy level, my alertness, and ability to focus that is so critical in my work and was compromised by the excess insulin., Sorry your doctor didn&#039;t prep you for this, but honestly , I don&#039;t think my experience will match yours due to the education I received prior to taking it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.   So I&#8217;ve been given Victoza to take for similar reasons as you. I haven&#8217;t started it yet. My doctor seems to have vanished after telling me to talk to him once I had the prescription in hand before taking it. Before this, he had me on the Duke diet and I&#8217;ve been steadily losing weight. More than just losing weight, it&#8217;s taught me HOW to eat with the same insulin resistance condition you state. What&#8217;s weird to me is how much sugar you&#8217;re putting in your body while  taking this. My diet is extremely low carb for 2 weeks, then off of the low/no carb for 3 weeks. But the off has its limits. It practices portion control with limited carbs. I won&#8217;t say anything is really denied, but the sweets I got on this cycle were very rarely eaten. And they were selected with great care to have no more than 11 grams of sugar. So I found  Juliette&#8217;s ice cream sandwiches, (1/2 of the normal Julie&#8217;s ice cream sandwich) and the lowest sugar dark chocolate bars I could find (all this from Whole Foods).  Some of these items were things I&#8217;d happily eaten in the past. But I didn&#8217;t find I wanted much of them. 2 chocolate bars lasted 5 weeks. I&#8217;d take a small chunk when I was in the mood and that was sufficient. The rest of my diet was to take a sectioned plate and on the big section put vegie, on each of the little sections I could fill with carbs in one such as rice, or pasta and protein such as meat.  I don&#8217;t drink soda. So what&#8217;s bizarre to me is how much pure sugar you seemed to be shovelling in your mouth, because of course that goes fast. While not eating any proteins that last quite awhile. And why you would eat that way with high insulin levels? I am so thrilled with my doctor, not because of the weight loss, though that&#8217;s a side benefit, but because he&#8217;s restored my energy level, my alertness, and ability to focus that is so critical in my work and was compromised by the excess insulin., Sorry your doctor didn&#8217;t prep you for this, but honestly , I don&#8217;t think my experience will match yours due to the education I received prior to taking it.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janice,
How are you doing? I have type 2, but some days have low blood sugars. I start with the shakes and sweating, etc if my blood sugar gets below 90. My endo wants me to start the Victoza because of my morbid obesity, caused by various things. I am afraid because of the low blood sugar that the host of this site was talking about. Does anyone else have the trouble with the low blood sugar ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janice,<br />
How are you doing? I have type 2, but some days have low blood sugars. I start with the shakes and sweating, etc if my blood sugar gets below 90. My endo wants me to start the Victoza because of my morbid obesity, caused by various things. I am afraid because of the low blood sugar that the host of this site was talking about. Does anyone else have the trouble with the low blood sugar ?</p>
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		<title>By: Rickydee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victoza, and Sleeve weight loss surgery, saved me from going the diabetic route. I started taking it pre-diabetic when I was insulin resistant. I have lost 144# and no side effects!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victoza, and Sleeve weight loss surgery, saved me from going the diabetic route. I started taking it pre-diabetic when I was insulin resistant. I have lost 144# and no side effects!</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,, I am type 2  for 6 years now. Have been taking 3 different medications and also insulin on a sliding scale as needed.. My bg has been high upon getting up in the morning. Which would mess up my whole day of eating. Started taking the victoza about 5 weeks ago. First with a sample from doctor. I told her when I went back after the first month that I could not afford it. I am medicare and they would not cover it. My doctor went and called the walmart pharmacy and told them it was helping me and I got it cheap enough that I can take the low dose. I have had a lot of nausea and tummy problems. Also been really nervous and have a bad headache. It has been bring my glucose down and have been checking it more often. When my bg falls below 80 I get shaky and almost pass out.I am still experimenting to see when the best time of the day to take the shot would be, I also have no appetite and do not want to eat. Have to make myself eat something. I am concerned about the pancreatitis and also thyroid cancer that this might cause. My doctor is going to screen me every 3 months to make sure that my thyroid is doing ok. Will take it one day at a time and try to get past the side affects. I need to lose a large amount of weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,, I am type 2  for 6 years now. Have been taking 3 different medications and also insulin on a sliding scale as needed.. My bg has been high upon getting up in the morning. Which would mess up my whole day of eating. Started taking the victoza about 5 weeks ago. First with a sample from doctor. I told her when I went back after the first month that I could not afford it. I am medicare and they would not cover it. My doctor went and called the walmart pharmacy and told them it was helping me and I got it cheap enough that I can take the low dose. I have had a lot of nausea and tummy problems. Also been really nervous and have a bad headache. It has been bring my glucose down and have been checking it more often. When my bg falls below 80 I get shaky and almost pass out.I am still experimenting to see when the best time of the day to take the shot would be, I also have no appetite and do not want to eat. Have to make myself eat something. I am concerned about the pancreatitis and also thyroid cancer that this might cause. My doctor is going to screen me every 3 months to make sure that my thyroid is doing ok. Will take it one day at a time and try to get past the side affects. I need to lose a large amount of weight.</p>
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		<title>By: John NYC</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Michelle.  Once you add &quot;for me&quot; to your statements, you are no longer trying to universalize your own experience and just speaking for yourself, so I have zero issue now with what you say.  Good luck and good health!  John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Michelle.  Once you add &#8220;for me&#8221; to your statements, you are no longer trying to universalize your own experience and just speaking for yourself, so I have zero issue now with what you say.  Good luck and good health!  John</p>
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		<title>By: CF Michelle (Site Owner)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

One thing which may not show on this blog is the fact that the original post was made in June of 2010. So it&#039;s likely that off-label use has expanded exponentially in the time since I originally had this experience. While I stand by my initial evaluation that this is not a drug for me (for any reason, not just weight loss), the comments on here have shown me that it has worked wonders for others, and for them I am happy. I am one of those unfortunate folks who have not had much luck in general with the modern medical system. I have instead, taught myself a great deal about how to handle my various ailments using supplements and the occasional herbal remedy. I have also managed to lose a considerable amount of weight and bring both my blood sugar and my hyperinsulinemia under control by changing to a low-carb/primal way of eating. 

I am very happy to see the discussion that goes on here regarding Victoza. I think folks need to see both sides, and decide for themselves whether or not it&#039;s worth the risk to at least try it. It is entirely possible that my experience would have been different if I had been educated about the drug by a competent physician or diabetes educator prior to trying it. Alas, I was not, and so perhaps my story stands more as a testament to what happens when you let a patient go uneducated, than as a true Victoza horror story.

-Michelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>One thing which may not show on this blog is the fact that the original post was made in June of 2010. So it&#8217;s likely that off-label use has expanded exponentially in the time since I originally had this experience. While I stand by my initial evaluation that this is not a drug for me (for any reason, not just weight loss), the comments on here have shown me that it has worked wonders for others, and for them I am happy. I am one of those unfortunate folks who have not had much luck in general with the modern medical system. I have instead, taught myself a great deal about how to handle my various ailments using supplements and the occasional herbal remedy. I have also managed to lose a considerable amount of weight and bring both my blood sugar and my hyperinsulinemia under control by changing to a low-carb/primal way of eating. </p>
<p>I am very happy to see the discussion that goes on here regarding Victoza. I think folks need to see both sides, and decide for themselves whether or not it&#8217;s worth the risk to at least try it. It is entirely possible that my experience would have been different if I had been educated about the drug by a competent physician or diabetes educator prior to trying it. Alas, I was not, and so perhaps my story stands more as a testament to what happens when you let a patient go uneducated, than as a true Victoza horror story.</p>
<p>-Michelle</p>
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		<title>By: John NYC</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have observed in this thread, there are elements to the OP&#039;s description of his/her behavior and experience that are inconsistent with what many of us understand both about diabetes and about its prevention and treatment.

However, I think that we have to assume that s/he is acting in good faith on the information that they have received and then consult our own endocrinologists for advice on how to proceed.  The risk of the Internet is that people will allow partial or bad advice to inform important decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have observed in this thread, there are elements to the OP&#8217;s description of his/her behavior and experience that are inconsistent with what many of us understand both about diabetes and about its prevention and treatment.</p>
<p>However, I think that we have to assume that s/he is acting in good faith on the information that they have received and then consult our own endocrinologists for advice on how to proceed.  The risk of the Internet is that people will allow partial or bad advice to inform important decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: John NYC</title>
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		<description>That is a useful clarification, but I think you have to delimit your remarks just a bit further to be accurate.  

Victoza is now being prescribed by very well-credentialed endocrinologists at major teaching hospitals to assist in weight loss for people who may fit the risk-profile of a future diabetic but who have not yet been technically diagnosed with pre-diabetes or diabetes.  So, to say that &quot;Victoza is not for use by non-diabetics for the purpose of weight loss&quot; is not completely accurate.  It is quite common for drugs like Victoza to be prescribed &quot;Off label&quot; by physicians who have studied and evaluated not just the drug itself but the condition and risk-profile of an individual patient.

I think that anywhere, but especially in a forum like this, the best advice that any of us who are struggling with diabetes, pre-diabetes or obesity can give others who have similar struggles is that they should consult an endocrinologist who specializes in the treatment and prevention of diabetes as to the wisdom and/or effectiveness of using Victoza or any drug in their battle with these life-threatening conditions.  

Thank you, though, for showing concern for the well-being of others based on your experience.  Like you, I only speak for myself, but I can say that, as someone who has not been diagnosed with diabetes, I have found Victoza to be extremely effective in weight loss and that the drug has had no adverse affect on my blood sugar levels.  I had some minor side-effects (mild nausea and maybe two instances of diarrhea), but they were passing (in my experience, it is important to follow the manufacturer&#039;s and physician&#039;s advice to ratchet up the dosage slowly over several weeks).  

I advise anyone, whether diabetic or not, who is interested in taking the drug for this purpose to consult with their endocrinologist and determine if it is the right course of action in their case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a useful clarification, but I think you have to delimit your remarks just a bit further to be accurate.  </p>
<p>Victoza is now being prescribed by very well-credentialed endocrinologists at major teaching hospitals to assist in weight loss for people who may fit the risk-profile of a future diabetic but who have not yet been technically diagnosed with pre-diabetes or diabetes.  So, to say that &#8220;Victoza is not for use by non-diabetics for the purpose of weight loss&#8221; is not completely accurate.  It is quite common for drugs like Victoza to be prescribed &#8220;Off label&#8221; by physicians who have studied and evaluated not just the drug itself but the condition and risk-profile of an individual patient.</p>
<p>I think that anywhere, but especially in a forum like this, the best advice that any of us who are struggling with diabetes, pre-diabetes or obesity can give others who have similar struggles is that they should consult an endocrinologist who specializes in the treatment and prevention of diabetes as to the wisdom and/or effectiveness of using Victoza or any drug in their battle with these life-threatening conditions.  </p>
<p>Thank you, though, for showing concern for the well-being of others based on your experience.  Like you, I only speak for myself, but I can say that, as someone who has not been diagnosed with diabetes, I have found Victoza to be extremely effective in weight loss and that the drug has had no adverse affect on my blood sugar levels.  I had some minor side-effects (mild nausea and maybe two instances of diarrhea), but they were passing (in my experience, it is important to follow the manufacturer&#8217;s and physician&#8217;s advice to ratchet up the dosage slowly over several weeks).  </p>
<p>I advise anyone, whether diabetic or not, who is interested in taking the drug for this purpose to consult with their endocrinologist and determine if it is the right course of action in their case.</p>
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		<title>By: John NYC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to you and the other health professionals who have tried to clarify what could be taken as the misleading impressions that one might take from the OP.  

I am sure that the OP is completely sincere in his/her representation of their own experience with this drug and with the disease of diabetes, but the anxiety over what for most are normal blood levels could be viewed as portraying a reaction that is inconsistent with the circumstances leading to that reaction, while the reference to a diabetic coma in the general context of taking Victoza (the specific context intended for that reference in the post is not clear) is a bit alarmist for the less aware.  

I hasten to add that none of us can know the specific circumstances of the OP&#039;s own health, but I think it&#039;s fair to say that any one of us should be careful about universalizing our own unique perceptions and conditions to influence the experience of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to you and the other health professionals who have tried to clarify what could be taken as the misleading impressions that one might take from the OP.  </p>
<p>I am sure that the OP is completely sincere in his/her representation of their own experience with this drug and with the disease of diabetes, but the anxiety over what for most are normal blood levels could be viewed as portraying a reaction that is inconsistent with the circumstances leading to that reaction, while the reference to a diabetic coma in the general context of taking Victoza (the specific context intended for that reference in the post is not clear) is a bit alarmist for the less aware.  </p>
<p>I hasten to add that none of us can know the specific circumstances of the OP&#8217;s own health, but I think it&#8217;s fair to say that any one of us should be careful about universalizing our own unique perceptions and conditions to influence the experience of others.</p>
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		<title>By: John NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>John NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you can count me among those who have had a good experience with Victoza, prescribed &quot;Off label&quot; to aid in weight loss.  I&#039;ve successfully transitioned from the startup 0.6 dose to the recommended normal 1.2 dose with no noticeable side effects.  I noticed some mild nausea when I first started taking the drug, but, beyond that, have experienced no adverse reactions.  On the other hand, my appetite has been altered (lowered) to a noticeable degree and I am losing weight.

The OP, who reports that s/he is not yet diabetic, clearly pays very close attention to his/her blood levels, monitors very closely any perceived physiological reactions to the measured changes in those levels, gives significant attention to anticipating and preparing for those reactions and feels strongly on the subject of Victoza.  I am sorry for his/her experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you can count me among those who have had a good experience with Victoza, prescribed &#8220;Off label&#8221; to aid in weight loss.  I&#8217;ve successfully transitioned from the startup 0.6 dose to the recommended normal 1.2 dose with no noticeable side effects.  I noticed some mild nausea when I first started taking the drug, but, beyond that, have experienced no adverse reactions.  On the other hand, my appetite has been altered (lowered) to a noticeable degree and I am losing weight.</p>
<p>The OP, who reports that s/he is not yet diabetic, clearly pays very close attention to his/her blood levels, monitors very closely any perceived physiological reactions to the measured changes in those levels, gives significant attention to anticipating and preparing for those reactions and feels strongly on the subject of Victoza.  I am sorry for his/her experience.</p>
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